Quenya
sindarin
noun. Grey-elven
Element in
- Q. hwesta sindarinwa “Grey-elven hw” ✧ LotR/1123
Elements
Word Gloss Sinda “Grey-elf” -rin “-ian, racial-adjective, language”
sindarinwa
grey-elven
sindarinwa (þ) adj. "Grey-elven" in the phrase hwesta sindarinwa "Grey-elven hw" (Appendix E); it may really be "Sindarin" (as a noun) with the possessive ending -va, -wa appended, hence literally "hw of [the] Sindarin [language]"
sinda
grey
sinda (þ) adj. "grey" (PE17:72); nominal pl. Sindar used = "Grey-elves", lit. *"Grey ones"; see WJ:375. Gen. pl. Sindaron in WJ:369. With general meaning "grey" also in Sindacollo > Singollo "Grey-cloak, Thingol" (SA:thin(d), PE17:72; see also sindë, Sindicollo);†sindanórië "grey land", ablative sindanóriello "from/out of a grey country" (Nam); the reference is to a "mythical region of shadows lying at outer feet of the Mountains of Valinor" (PE17:72). However, other sources give sindë (q.v.) as the Quenya word for "grey"; perhaps sinda came to mean primarily "Grey-elf" as a noun. Derived adjective Sindarin "Grey-elven", normally used as a noun to refer to the Grey-elven language. (Appendix F)
sinda
adjective. grey
The best known Quenya word for “grey” and an element in a number of names. It is also used as a noun Sinda “Grey Elf”. Tolkien sometimes used a variant form sindë for “grey” (WJ/384; PE17/141; Ety/THIN); see that entry for details.
Cognates
- S. thind “grey, grey, [N.] pale” ✧ PE17/072; SA/thin(d)
Derivations
- √THIN “*grey” ✧ PE17/072
- ✶thindā “grey” ✧ PE17/072
- √THIN “*grey”
Element in
- Q. Eldar Sindar “Grey Elves” ✧ PE21/77
- Q. Eldar sindaron “Grey Elves’” ✧ PE21/77
- Q. Sinda “Grey-elf” ✧ SA/thin(d)
- Q. Sindacollo “Grey-cloak, Greymantle” ✧ PE17/072; SA/thin(d)
- Q. Sinda Eldō “a Grey Elf’s” ✧ PE21/77
- Q. Sindanórië “Grey Country, Land of Greyness” ✧ PE17/072
- Q. Sindar Eldar “Grey Elves” ✧ PE21/77
- Q. Sindar Eldaron “Grey Elves’” ✧ PE21/77
- Q. Sindar i Eldar Malariando “Grey are the Elves of Beleriand” ✧ PE21/77
- Q. Sindel “Grey-elf”
- Q. sindië “greyness” ✧ PE17/072
- Q. Singollo “Grey-cloak, Greymantle” ✧ SA/thin(d)
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources √ΘIN > sinda [tʰinda] > [θinda] > [sinda] ✧ PE17/072 ✶þindā > sinda [tʰindā] > [θindā] > [θinda] > [sinda] ✧ PE17/072 Variations
- Sinda ✧ PE21/77
sindë
grey, pale or silvery grey
sindë (þ) adj. "grey, pale or silvery grey" (the Vanyarin dialect preserves the older form þindë) (WJ:384, THIN; in SA:thin(d) the form given is sinda, cf. also sindanóriello "from a grey country" in Namárië. Sindë and sinda_ are apparently variants of the same word.) _Stem sindi-, given the primitive form ¤thindi; cf. Sindicollo (q.v.)
hiswa
grey
hiswa (þ) adj. "grey" (KHIS/KHITH, Narqelion)
mista
grey
mista adj. "grey"; see lassemista
mista
adjective. grey
Cognates
- S. mith “grey, light grey, pale grey”
Derivations
- √MITH “grey”
Element in
- Q. Lassemista “Leaf-Grey” ✧ PE17/083
mísë
grey
mísë (þ, cf. Sindarin mith-) adj. "grey" (used as noun of grey clothes in the phrase mi mísë of someone clad "in grey"). The underlying stem refers a paler or whiter "grey" than sinda, making mísë "a luminous grey" (PE17:71-72)
Sindarin
Sindarin
The word Sindarin itself is actually a Quenya word given by the Noldorin Exiles. It is pronounced [ˈsindarin].
Sindarin
thind
adjective. grey, pale
thind
adjective. grey
adj. grey. Q. sinda. >> thin, Thingol, thinn
thind
adjective. grey
_ adj. _grey. Obsolete except in names as Thingol. >> hithren
thind
adjective. grey, grey, [N.] pale
if from þindā, why no a-affection? @@@
Cognates
- Q. sinda “grey” ✧ PE17/072; SA/thin(d)
- Q. sindë “grey, pale or silvery grey, grey, pale or silvery grey, [ᴹQ.] pale” ✧ PE17/141; PE17/141; PE17/141
Derivations
- ✶thindā “grey” ✧ PE17/072
- √THIN “*grey”
- ✶thindi “grey” ✧ PE17/140; PE17/141; PE17/141
- √THIN “*grey” ✧ WJ/384
Element in
- ᴺS. thindrostir “badger”
- S. Thindrim “Sindar”
- S. Thingódhel “*Grey Noldo”
- S. Thingol “Greycloak, Greymantle” ✧ PE17/072; PE17/112; SA/thin(d)
- S. Thinnedhel “Grey-elf”
- S. Thinrod “noble member of the Thindrim”
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ✶þindā > thin(n) [tʰindā] > [tʰinda] > [θinda] > [θind] > [θinn] ✧ PE17/072 ✶þindĭ- > thind [tʰindi] > [tʰinde] > [θinde] > [θind] ✧ PE17/140 ✶thĭndĭ > thind [tʰindi] > [θindi] > [θind] > [θinn] ✧ PE17/141 Variations
- thin(n) ✧ PE17/072; PE17/112
- thinn ✧ PE17/141; PE17/141
- thin(d) ✧ SA/thin(d)
thinn
adjective. grey
adj. grey. Q. sinda. >> thin, thind, Thingol
thinn
adjective. grey
_adj. _grey. Q. sinde.
thinn
adjective. grey
hithren
adjective. grey
_ adj. _grey. >> thind
hithren
adjective. grey
Elements
Word Gloss hîth “mist”
mithren
adjective. grey
mithren
adjective. grey
Changes
mithren→ hithren ✧ PE17/140Element in
- S. Ered Mithrin “Grey Mountains” ✧ LotR/1064
- S. Mithrellas
Elements
Word Gloss mith “grey, light grey, pale grey” -ren “adjective suffix”
thin
adjective. grey
adj. grey. Q. sinda. >> thind, Thingol, thinn
mith
adjective. (pale) grey
mith
grey
adj. grey, light grey. >> Mithrandir, mithril
edhellen
sindarin
: Apparently the Sindar called their own language simply edhellen = "Elvish".
edhellen
sindarin
= "Elvish".
thind
grey
(pale); no distinct pl. form.
mithren
grey
1) *mithren (lenited vithren, pl. mithrin). 2) thind (pale); no distinct pl. form. 3) (pale grey) mith (lenited vith; no distinct pl. form). David Salo would read mîth with a long vowel. Note: a hom*ophone means ”white fog, wet mist”.
mithren
grey
(lenited vithren, pl. mithrin).
mith
grey
(lenited vith; no distinct pl. form). David Salo would read mîth with a long vowel. Note: a hom*ophone means ”white fog, wet mist”.
Primitive elvish
thindi
adjective. grey
Changes
thinide→ thinida ✧ PE17/141thinidi→ thĭndĭ ✧ PE17/141Derivations
- √THIN “*grey” ✧ WJ/384
Derivatives
- Q. sindë “grey, pale or silvery grey, grey, pale or silvery grey, [ᴹQ.] pale” ✧ PE17/141; PE17/141; PE17/141; WJ/384
- S. thind “grey, grey, [N.] pale” ✧ PE17/140; PE17/141; PE17/141
- Van. thindë “grey, pale or silvery grey” ✧ WJ/384
Variations
- þindĭ- ✧ PE17/140
- thindi- ✧ PE17/141
- thĭndĭ ✧ PE17/141
- thinide ✧ PE17/141 (
thinide)- thinidi ✧ PE17/141 (
thinidi)- thini ✧ PE21/81
thindā
adjective. grey
Derivations
- √THIN “*grey”
Derivatives
- Q. Sinda “Grey-elf” ✧ PE17/141; PE17/141
- Q. sinda “grey” ✧ PE17/072
- S. Thend “*Sinda, Grey-Elf” ✧ PE17/141; PE17/141
- S. thind “grey, grey, [N.] pale” ✧ PE17/072
Variations
- þindā ✧ PE17/072
- thinida ✧ PE17/141
stin
root. grey
thini
adjective. grey
mith
root. grey
Tolkien introduced the root ᴹ√MITH in The Etymologies of the 1930s as a blending of ᴹ√MIS “✱wet” and ᴹ√KHITH “mist, fog”, with the derivative N. mith “white fog, wet mist” as in N. Mithrim “✱Mist Lake” (Ety/MITH, RINGI; EtyAC/MITH). As a later addition to this entry Tolkien wrote the adjective N. mith “grey”, and that was the more common use of this word in Tolkien’s later writings. In a 1955 letter to David Masson Tolkien specified that “usage suggests that MIÞ- is paler and whiter, a luminous grey” (PE17/72).
Derivatives
- ✶mītha “*grey”
- S. Mîth “*Sinda, Grey-Elf” ✧ PE17/140
- Q. mísë “(light) grey”
- Q. mista “grey”
- S. mith “grey, light grey, pale grey”
Variations
- MIÞ ✧ PE17/072
Noldorin
thind
adjective. grey, pale
thinn
adjective. grey, pale
mid
adjective. grey
Element in
- N. har na ond i mid “stand by the grey stone” ✧ AotH/056
mith
adjective. (pale) grey
mith
adjective. grey
Derivations
- ᴹ√MITH “*mist, grey” ✧ Ety/MITH
Element in
- N. Mitheithel “Hoarwell”
- N. Mithlond “?Grey Havens, Grey Gulf”
- N. Mithrandir “Grey Wanderer/Pilgrim”
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴹ√MITH > mith [mitʰe] > [miθe] > [miθ] ✧ Ety/MITH Variations
- mith ✧ Ety/MITH
Beware, older languages below! The languages below were invented during Tolkien's earlier period and should be used with caution. Remember to never, ever mix words from different languages!
Qenya
hiswa
adjective. grey, grey [of weather], *foggy, overcast; [ᴱQ.] dim, fading
This word is glossed “grey” in The Etymologies, but perhaps means “✱foggy, overcast”, since Sindarin cognate hethw means “foggy, obscure, vague” and related noun hiswë means “fog”. @@@
Cognates
- N. hethw “foggy, obscure, vague” ✧ Ety/KHIS
- Ilk. hedhu “grey” ✧ Ety/KHIS
Derivations
- ᴹ✶khithwa ✧ Ety/KHIS
- ᴹ√KHITH “mist, fog” ✧ Ety/KHIS
Elements
Word Gloss hiswe “fog” -a “adjectival suffix” Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴹ✶khithwa > hiswa [kʰitʰwa] > [kʰiθwa] > [xiθwa] > [hiθwa] > [hiswa] ✧ Ety/KHIS
Doriathrin
thind
adjective. grey
An adjective for “grey” derived from primitive ᴹ✶thindi (Ety/THIN) because primitive final vowels vanished in Ilkorin.
Cognates
- ᴹQ. sinde “grey, pale” ✧ Ety/THIN
Derivations
- ᴹ✶thindi “pallid, grey, wan” ✧ Ety/THIN
- ᴹ√THIN “*grey” ✧ Ety/THIN
Element in
- Ilk. Thind ✧ Ety/THIN
- Ilk. Thingol “*Grey-wise” ✧ Ety/THIN
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴹ✶thindi > thind [tʰindi] > [tʰinde] > [θinde] > [θind] ✧ Ety/THIN
hedhu
adjective. grey
A Doriathrin adjective for “grey” written heðu in The Etymologies, and derived from the primitive form ᴹ✶khithwa [kʰitʰwa] (Ety/KHIS). This word illustrates several interesting phonetic changes in Ilkorin.
The [[ilk|[i] became [e] before the final [a]]].
Both the aspirates became voiceless spirants: [kʰ-] > [x-] and [-tʰ-] > [-θ-].
Later the [[ilk|initial [x-] became [h-]]].
Meanwhile the [[ilk|medial [-θ-] voiced to [-ð-]]] (“dh”).
The [[ilk|primitive final [a] was lost]].
Afterwards, the resulting [[ilk|final [w] became [u]]].
In most other Doriathrin words, a [[ilk|final [u] from [w] further developed into [o]]]; it is unclear why this change did not occur here.
Cognates
- ᴹQ. hiswa “grey, grey [of weather], *foggy, overcast; [ᴱQ.] dim, fading” ✧ Ety/KHIS
Derivations
- ᴹ✶khithwa ✧ Ety/KHIS
- ᴹ√KHITH “mist, fog” ✧ Ety/KHIS
Phonetic Developments
Development Stages Sources ᴹ✶khithwa > heðu [kʰitʰwa] > [kʰetʰwa] > [xetʰwa] > [xeθwa] > [xeθw] > [xeðw] > [heðw] > [heðu] ✧ Ety/KHIS Variations
- heðu ✧ Ety/KHIS (Dor. heðu); EtyAC/KHIS (Dor. heðu)
Gnomish
musc
adjective. grey